Wednesday, 24 April 2024
Self-Help For Cynics #30: Anti-Social Media
Friday, 10 November 2023
Record Collection Recollections #8: Tribalism II
When two tribes go to war
A point is all that you can score
Frankie Goes To Hollywood - Two Tribes
A few weeks back, I wrote a post about tribalism in music fandom, and how I've always felt it was a bad thing. I quoted Dave Newton of The Mighty Lemon Drops, from an interview in Nige Tassell's C86 book. Dave, who now lives in the States, claimed that tribalism wasn't as much of a thing over there as it is in Britain.
Over here, it's amazing how many people who like us or the Bunnymen also like Van Halen. I don't get that. Some Americans think I'm not telling the truth about bands like that - or that I'm some kind of snob. No, it's just not conceivable that in the UK you'd like Wah! Heat and Bon Jovi. But you see it here on kids' schoolbags where they've written both Rush and the Sex Pistols. Really?! How can you love both?
Well, it turns out Jeff Tweedy from Wilco disagrees. Quite strongly, in fact. Jeff's just written an article for the New York Times in which he admits that when he was a kid, he hated Dancing Queen by Abba... because that was the opinion that was expected of him. I'm not able to read the full article due to the NYT firewall wanting my money, The article's called “I Thought I Hated Pop Music. ‘Dancing Queen’ Changed My Mind.” if you feel like paying their subscription fees. If not, Stereogum have pulled out some choice quotes, including this...
Let’s talk about that first wave of disgust a bit. Initially, hating this song and Abba in general didn’t really feel like a choice. Gagging at the mere mention of this sweet little quartet was just being, you know, normal. And at the time that “Dancing Queen” came out, it wasn’t hard to hate a disco song, anyway; disco was despised by practically everyone I knew (with the exception of the kids who liked to roller skate).
Tweedy goes even further though, suggesting than the tribalism that's ingrained into us as teenagers affects our choices in later life, creating either/or, black/white thinking that prevents us us seeing the middle ground or allowing ourselves to be open to other perspectives, ideas or beliefs.
The divisions we created were embarrassing. I have sometimes even wondered if these youthful skirmishes over musical taste weren’t a childhood version of the current situation our country now finds itself in. Were people of my generation so good at dividing ourselves into factions based on stupid, insignificant differences that we simply never stopped doing it? Someone smarter than me has probably mapped the parallels between Journey fans and X fans and the current binary of political right and left. Or if no one has, someone should.
Journey - Don't Stop Believin'
X - I Must Not Think Bad Thoughts
I'm not claiming the moral high ground here. As much as I rattle on about loving Billy Joel as much as REM, Queen as much as The Smiths, and Meat Loaf as much as John Prine, I'm aware that there are whole genres of music that leave me cold, and as much as I might be changing my mind about New Order, I don't think I'll ever appreciate rave or dubstep or 80% of the stuff Radio One plays these days. I like to think that I don't let genre bias blind me to a good pop song though, which is why I keep listening to Taylor Swift. Still, I think it's more important to celebrate the things I do like rather than railing against the things I don't (unless it's Bono). And I do appreciate good writing about all genres of music, which is why I enjoy reading blogs that cover artists who would never find their way into my hard drive. It's OK to say, "Ed Sheeran's not for me". That's not tribalism, it's just personal taste. Tribalism comes when you say, "Ed Sheeran's shit and I'm not going to listen to or respect the opinion of anyone who tells me they like him". We're all guilty of that a little bit, I guess, but really... what's the point?
Taylor Swift - You Belong With Me (Taylor's Version)
Jeff Tweedy is doing the rounds because he has a book out, called World Within a Song: Music That Changed My Life and Life That Changed My Music. Definitely one for the Christmas list. He's also promoting the new Wilco album, Cousin, presumably inspired by the TV show The Bear, which uses a lot of his band's music. Here's the title track...
Sunday, 21 August 2022
Snapshots #254: A Top Ten Salt & Pepper Songs
Ten songs to sprinkle on your chips...
10. Unknown corpse.
That would be a John Doe. As in the former lead singer of the US punk band X, now trading in slightly less rowdy Americana...
9. Red, orange, yellow, green, Sandra Denton.
All different colours of peppers... along with Sandra Denton, aka Pepa from Salt n Pepa. Get up on this!
These guys, on the other had, were French Peppers.
8. Mr. Raoul Chop.
Anagram!
7. Edward Kennedy: neither thin nor white... and certainly not a cowboy.
Edward Kennedy Ellington, better known as Duke. Not the Thin White Duke, nor John Wayne.
Duke Ellington - Blue Pepper (Far East of the Blues)
6. Found in Jacob Obama and Crewe Iron Man; also thankful to be gone.
Jacob Obama and Crewe Iron Man. Of the Grateful Dead.
5. Batter Dawson.
Beat Les.
The Beatles - Sgt Pepper's Lonely Heart's Club Band
4. Son of a passenger.
One of the passengers in the car above had a son...
3. What if the Beach Boys were a bunch of arses?
Despite the dubious band name, this is a better song than the Red Hot Chilli Peppers ever managed to put out. Although it does owe a little debt to The Jim Carroll Band.
2. The answer is seen in each effort he makes.
"each effort". Chef from South Park, as voiced by Isaac Hayes, and his Number One hit...
1. Richy Rap? Nah.
Tuesday, 16 June 2020
Hot 100 #4
There are indeed many great bands with 4 in their name... but there's only one Four Tops. My sister had a Four Tops greatest hits in her record collection when I was growing up and I played the grooves out of it. (I'm also thankful to her for having a similar Supremes compilation.)
As Billy put it...
Other band suggestions this week, starting with Rigid Digit...
The Fourmost - Hello Little Girl
Mega City Four - Who Cares?
Frankie Valli & The Four Seasons - The Night
4 Non Blondes - What's Up?
4 Skins - Chaos
Meanwhile, Charity Chic offered...
Gang of Four - Damaged Goods
Four Brothers - Rugare
And Swiss Adam gave us...
Four Tet - Two Thousand & Seventeen
(I think that was the winner 2013 posts ago. I may be wrong.)
And then there was...
The Bobby Fuller Four - I Fought The Law
Unit 4 Plus 2 - Concrete & Clay
(Possibly a Tom Robinson Rule breaker, possibly should have been here two weeks ago.)
The 4 of Us - Mary
The Four Freshmen - Shangri-La
The Choice Four - Come Down To Earth
The What Four - I'm Going To Destroy That Boy
The Fantastic Four - I Don't Wanna Live With You
The Ten Fours - All Night Boogie
Vega 4 - Life Is Beautiful
Plus a bunch more which I don't have the energy to type because I want to get onto the songs.
Charity Chic opened the bidding this week...
I'm getting in Four Horsemen by The Clash before Swiss Adam does.
Damn you CC, said Swiss Adam. That was my number one Four song.
Oh, yes, and then there is...
Radiohead - 4 Minute Warning
Thank you, Douglas. The way things are going, we'll be lucky if we get 4 minutes.
The Beach Boys - 4th of July (a stunning Dennis Wilson composition that was unreleased until 1993.)
You do wonder how tracks like that end up in a cupboard for so long.
X - 4th of July
I keep meaning to check out more X.
And a couple of more...
The New Pornographers - 3 or 4 (maybe next week?)
Neither, under the Tom Robinson Rule.
Grandaddy - Jed the 4th
Excellent.
Finally this week, it's Alyson - who still feels the need to apologise for her record collection.
As ever my library is from an alternate planet to most of the others here, so here goes...
Never apologise for your record collection... unless it's full of U2 and... erm... Beady Eye.
My favourite Take That member in his post TT incarnation -
Mark Owen - Four Minute Warning
I always thought Mark Owen seemed like the nicest one in Take That.
Brian Hyland - Four Little Heels (a not-so-golden oldie)
The jury's out on that one.
And as is my habit, I seem to have one that probably won't qualify as an EP, but still worth a mention.
Deacon Blue - Four Bacharach and David Songs
That, on the other hand, while unable to qualify, is still pure class.
Deacon Blue - I'll Never Fall In Love Again
OK, time to raid the archive... and it's worth pointing out that there's a heckuva lot of bad language in my record collection. For example...
Squeeze - Love's A Four Letter Word
Kim Wilde - Four Letter Word
Lukas Nelson - Four Letter Word
Echobelly - Four Letter Word
And then there's all this lot...
Drive-By Truckers - The Fourth Night of My Drinking
Whale ft. Bus 75 - Four Big Speakers
Cream - Four Until Late
Smog - Four Hearts In A Can
Johnny Cash - A Ceiling, Four Walls & A Floor
Low - Four Score
Counting Crows - Four Days
Counting Crows - 4 White Stallions
Loudon Wainwright III - Four Mirrors
Loudon Wainwright III - Four Is A Magic Number
Malcolm Middleton - Four Cigarettes
Starsailor - Four To The Floor
The Pogues - Four O'Clock In The Morning
The Rural Alberta Advantage - Four Night Rider
The Soundtrack Of Our Lives - Four Ages Pt. 2
Randy Newman - Four Eyes
Rhett Miller - Four Eyed Girl
Cute Is What We Aim For - The Fourth Drink Instinct
Margo Price - Four Years of Chances
Tom Waits - Tom Traubert's Blues (Four Sheets To The Wind In Copenhagen)
Twisted Sister - Four Barrel Heart Of Love
Admiral Fallow - Four Bulbs
Dr. Hook - Four Years Older Than Me
Jeffrey Lewis - Back When I Was 4
Gilbert O'Sullivan - Number 4
De La Soul - 4 More
Ride - OX4
Young Knives - Fit 4 U
The Veronica - 4Ever
The Broken Family Band - Dancing On The 4th Floor
Skint & Demoralised - Boro Kitchen 4am
Phew. (Keep telling yourself, Rol, there's only three or four more weeks to go.)
However, I'm afraid I'm going to be very predictable this week. (Although not so predictable that anybody guessed the song.)
Because, as Brian pointed out earlier, there are many fine songs about the 4th of July. As well as those mentioned above, there's also...
Tom Rapp - Fourth Day of July
Sufjan Stevens - Fourth of July
Dave Alvin - Fourth of July
And this, which Martin picked out, and it was definitely on my shortlist because it is glorious, and would have won most other weeks. (Don't give up though, Aimee, there's still chance for you to take the top spot.)
I remember Elvis Costello praising that, way back when, particularly for lyrics such as these...
However, as I said: predictable.
From his debut album, and quite different from the kind of music that would make him famous, but still deeply affecting, and with some truly glorious imagery.
Somewhere in that ancient mystic trinity, you'll get three... and that's next week's magic number.
Your suggestions welcome as always.













